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Published on October 1, 2004 By Patriot_Flamethrower In Politics
Welcome to my post-Presidential debate analysis. First of all, let me say that virtually EVERYTHING we knew about these two men BEFORE the debate was confirmed AFTER the debate was over.

John Kerry is a FLIP-FLOPPER. John Kerry is a good debater. John Kerry is a believer in the United Nations determining if and when the United States Of America can defend itself, and that the USA must pass some sort of "global test" before we can "act unilaterally" to defend ourselves.

The PROBLEM with John Kerry is that he talks out of BOTH SIDES of his mouth. As President Bush stated during the debate, the ONLY consistent thing about John Kerry is his INCONSISTENCY.

John Kerry has characterized the 30+ nations who are assisting the United States in Iraq the "coalition of the duped", the "coalition of the coerced", and the "coalition of the bribed".

John Kerry states that the USA "acted unilaterally" when the coalition liberated Iraq.

John Kerry has stated that the Iraqi War was the "wrong war at the wrong place at the wrong time".

I am sure that Great Britain, Australia, Poland, Italy, Japan, South Korea, and the other 25 or so nations who are presently in Iraq are very GRATIFIED to know what John Kerry thinks of them and their mission and their sacrifice.

I am sure that Al Qaeda and the Iranian and Syrian-funded "insurgents" who are presently wreaking havoc in Iraq are very GRATIFIED to know that a man who wants to be President Of The United States is providing them with the WILL and the INCENTIVE and the MORAL SUPPORT to keep on murdering innocent Iraqi adults and children, killing U.S. soldiers, blowing up buildings, and kidnapping and beheading civilian contractors.

Somehow, despite all that he has stated about the coalition of 30+ nations, John Kerry states that if he is elected President, he is going to "build bridges" with the nations who HE believes don't like the USA anymore, and that he will somehow be able to put together a "grand coalition" of nations to secure and rebuild Iraq. I can see it now..........the French and Germans and Russians will be FLOCKING to the White House to BEG President Kerry to be a part of the Iraqi coalition. These so-called "allies" of ours will suddenly offer to POUR money and military personnel and equipment into Iraq at the request of President John F. Kerry. Then the other 30+ countries who are presently in Iraq will just have to bite the bullet and forgive John for his condescending attitude towards them.

Then we have John Kerry, "Mr. Coalition" and "Mr. World Global Test", criticizing President Bush for trying to solve the North Korea nuclear weapons situation PEACEFULLY by getting OTHER NATIONS involved (like China, Russia, South Korea, and Japan). Kerry thinks that the USA should negotiate with North Korea ALONE, like the Clinton administration did. Apparently Mr. Kerry forgot what happened when Jimmy Carter and Madeline Albright went over to North Korea and negotiated a "settlement" with Kim Jong Il. The North Koreans accepted our billions of dollars in aid, let us build them a couple of nice nuclear power plants, then basically told the USA to PACK SAND. Mr. Kerry wants to DO THE SAME THING again, and ignore the FACT that it is CHINA and RUSSIA that have much more LEVERAGE with North Korea than we do, and it is a COALITION of nations that will have to resolve this situation.

So, the bottom line is this. No matter WHAT President Bush says or does, John Kerry will take the OPPOSITE POSITION during this election season, whether he believes in what he says or not.

The problem with John Kerry is that he has no CORE BELIEFS and no FOUNDATION to build his CORE VALUES on. John Kerry's positions on virtually ANY topic are based on political expediency and political expediency ALONE.

John Kerry is the TRUE "Manchurian Candidate".




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on Oct 03, 2004
how can you say Kerry is a flip-flopper. He clearly has a set mind at plan. he said it himself: there's a right way to disarm Hussein and a wrong way. the right way is to put international pressures on him; the wrong way is to get more than 1000 Americans and a few thousand Iraqis killed.


You are so right he is not a flip-flopper the man is damn panderer. He is always pro-war in front of pro-war crowds and anti-war in front of anti-war crowds. Both of which he played to in the debate by near the beginning 'Saddam was not a threat' and near the end 'Saddam was a threat'. Panderers make great Presidents don't they? NOT!

- GX
on Oct 04, 2004
you forgot Palau and the Netherlands!
on Oct 04, 2004
Panderer yes, but but at least Kerry is honest about it! lol At least he didn't have to rig the elections like last time eh?
Notes in the margin:
-PT pay less attention to right voices. And you call muslims fanatical....
-British intellegence is a fable of Phoney Tony, do a google search using the now defunct office of special plans and the "reiterating" of old cia intel. I'd be happy to go into further detail if you like.

For what it is worth, I'd be much much more concerned if Cheny and Rumsfeld seek second terms. Why? They control the intel. They head may change but if the same cancer remains, nothing changes.

on Oct 04, 2004

Reply #18 By: JakeD (Anonymous) - 10/4/2004 4:39:45 PM
Panderer yes, but but at least Kerry is honest about it! lol At least he didn't have to rig the elections like last time eh?
Notes in the margin:
-PT pay less attention to right voices. And you call muslims fanatical....
-British intellegence is a fable of Phoney Tony, do a google search using the now defunct office of special plans and the "reiterating" of old cia intel. I'd be happy to go into further detail if you like.


At least you admit he's a panderer! Now that being said are you absolutly sure you want that kind of mentality in the white house?
on Oct 04, 2004
Realistically I can expect the same singular based agenda that bush had but with a bit more spit and polish.
To be honest, I feel Kerry is more right that most currently believe. There isn't alot of division between the two candidates. Villyfying one villifies the other IMO.

on Oct 04, 2004

Reply #20 By: JakeD (Anonymous) - 10/4/2004 5:27:26 PM
Realistically I can expect the same singular based agenda that bush had but with a bit more spit and polish.
To be honest, I feel Kerry is more right that most currently believe. There isn't alot of division between the two candidates. Villyfying one villifies the other IMO.


You are dancing around the point. You admitted he was a panderer. Now answer the question, do WE need that in the oval office?
on Oct 04, 2004
We already have a dancer in the office. Dancer one is a republican. Dancer two is a democrat. The differences between one and two is one has taken many opportunities to act without approval, consent, or awareness of his public and the second says one thing and does another. Do you want someone who ignores 60 years of international law, or someone who lies to you? Which is the lesser of two evils?
on Oct 04, 2004
Which is the lesser of two evils?


Why choose the lesser when you should choose the greater, Vote Cthulhu in '04.

- GX, un-proud member of INGSOC
on Oct 04, 2004

Reply #22 By: JakeD (Anonymous) - 10/4/2004 10:34:24 PM
We already have a dancer in the office. Dancer one is a republican. Dancer two is a democrat. The differences between one and two is one has taken many opportunities to act without approval, consent, or awareness of his public and the second says one thing and does another. Do you want someone who ignores 60 years of international law, or someone who lies to you? Which is the lesser of two evils?


Your asking the wrong person that question. You will NOT like my answer. I could give a fig about international law. I CANNOT abide someone who lies to me!
on Oct 04, 2004

Reply #23 By: Grim Xiozan - 10/4/2004 10:46:01 PM
Which is the lesser of two evils?


Why choose the lesser when you should choose the greater, Vote Cthulhu in '04.

- GX, un-proud member of INGSOC


Lets get *real* GX!
on Oct 04, 2004
You are so right he is not a flip-flopper the man is damn panderer. He is always pro-war in front of pro-war crowds and anti-war in front of anti-war crowds.


Hey that's what "Kerry" said during the Saturday Night Live debate!!!!!!
on Oct 04, 2004
Hey that's what "Kerry" said during the Saturday Night Live debate!!!!!!


What they already should have told you what everybody should know about the man, he has been pandering for about a year now as a candidate.

- GX
INGSOC Enslaved Employee
on Oct 05, 2004
If lying is an issue I suggest you refrain from turning on fox and cnn. Consult your church pastor. On second hand don't bother - christian fundamentalism is making a real comeback. Try not to be a downer come christmas time! Hand out "I'm sorry for your loss" cards come easter. And if you still have a problem with dishonesty - ask your bank why they continue to pay you crap interest to use your money - but when you use theirs it is 6%+ on a line of credit, 11%+ on a bank loan, and 17%+ to use a credit card! THAT'S DISHONESTY
on Oct 05, 2004
I don't watch TV news, I'm definetly not a christain fundamentalist although I am a christian. The Xmas cards that I hand out go like this "Monies short and times are hard, Here's your f"""ing Christmas card! And I absolutly HATE banks! But just try getting along without one.
Reply #28 By: JakeD (Anonymous) - 10/5/2004 5:06:29 PM If lying is an issue I suggest you refrain from turning on fox and cnn. Consult your church pastor. On second hand don't bother - christian fundamentalism is making a real comeback. Try not to be a downer come christmas time! Hand out "I'm sorry for your loss" cards come easter. And if you still have a problem with dishonesty - ask your bank why they continue to pay you crap interest to use your money - but when you use theirs it is 6%+ on a line of credit, 11%+ on a bank loan, and 17%+ to use a credit card! THAT'S DISHONESTY
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